Governments snooping on you on internet, phones, warns Wikileaks journalist

In JLT, he underlined how Wikileaks trove fell into the hands of the Russians

Internet and mobile phones, smart and otherwise, may have made communications and access to information instant but also left users vulnerable to surveillance from state agencies, warns a British journalist who had a role in publicising both Julian Assange and Edward Snowden's explosive revelations of US government secrets.

But, Guardian journalist Luke Harding admits that while openness and transparency by governments is laudable and needed for accountability, there is some information needed to be kept confidential for national security, citing how the Wikileaks trove fell into the hands of the Russians, who purportedly used it to influence the 2016 US Presidential Elections.

Part of a team of international journalists who published the leaked files of Snowden, a former contractor of US' National Security Agency (NSA) and the "biggest whistle-blower in history", Harding, author of The Snowden Files: The Inside Story of the World's Most Wanted Man, in a session on the Jaipur Literary Festival 2017's final day on Monday, related the intrigue-laden story.

Noting Snowden, who had in 2013 become disillusioned with the US intelligence services' massive operation to spy on its own citizens, via the internet and smartphones "without democratic discussion, approval, or consent", he said that the American gathered evidence and fled the US for Hong Kong from where a meeting with Guardian journalists was arranged.

After examining the files he took from the NSA, they texted their editor a succinct message: "The Guinness is good", pre-arranged to mean that the material was legitimate.

A Guardian team, including Harding, then confined themselves up in a "bunker" in London to pore over the thousands of leaked documents and found the surveillance operation, which had included German Chancellor Angela Merkel as a target, also involved other intelligence services, including the British.

"You Brits are the worst of the lot," he recalled Snowden as saying.

Harding went on to describe the inept attempts by the British government to stop the leak, after the Guardian had published several explosive stories with Prime Minister David Cameron ordering several Guardian computers to be destroyed, despite the fact the material was also held by the New York Times, and by Snowden himself.

Asked about the ethical implications of leaks such as those of Snowden and Assange, which had also been published by the Guardian, Harding, who has also written Wikileaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy said: "Julian's view is that if you release all information, governments can be made accountable. My view is that there are times when some messages and sources need to be confidential, for national security."

"We fell out over that," he said, adding that lately "Wikileaks has been captured by the Kremlin and used to undermine the US election".

But he went on to warn the audience of state snooping and steps they could take.

"Governments are listening to all of us, here and around the world. They can remotely activate the microphones on your phones, they can track you using the location GPS on your phone," he said.