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We are at war with IS, not Islam

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Last Updated : Nov 21 2015 | 10:55 PM IST
Journalist: I want to ask a question... These terrorist attacks we've seen have allegedly been attacks in the name of Islam. But this really upsets the peaceful people of countries like Turkey. So how can we say this is not really representative of Muslims?

US President Barack Obama: Well, this is something that we spoke a lot about at the G20. The overwhelming majority of victims of terrorism over the last several years, and certainly the overwhelming majority of victims of ISIL, are themselves Muslims. ISIL does not represent Islam. It is not representative in any way of the attitudes of the overwhelming majority of Muslims. This is something that's been emphasised by Muslim leaders - whether it's (Turkish) President (Recep Tayyip) Erdogan or the President of Indonesia or the President of Malaysia - countries that are majority Muslim, but have shown themselves to be tolerant and work to be inclusive in their political process.

And so to the degree that anyone would equate the terrible actions that took place in Paris with the views of Islam, those kinds of stereotypes are counterproductive. They're wrong. They will lead, I think, to greater recruitment into terrorist organisations over time if this becomes somehow defined as a Muslim problem as opposed to a terrorist problem.

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Now, what is also true is, is that the most vicious terrorist organisations at the moment are ones that claim to be speaking on behalf of true Muslims. And I do think that Muslims around the world - religious leaders, political leaders, ordinary people - have to ask very serious questions about how these extremist ideologies take root, even if it's only affecting a very small fraction of the population. It is real and it is dangerous. And it has built up over time, and with social media it has now accelerated.

And so I think, on the one hand, non-Muslims cannot stereotype, but I also think the Muslim community has to think about how we make sure that children are not being infected with this twisted notion that somehow they can kill innocent people and that that is justified by religion. And to some degree, that is something that has to come from within the Muslim community itself. And I think there have been times where there has not been enough pushback against extremism. There's been pushback -there are some who say, "Well, we don't believe in violence, but are not as willing to challenge some of the extremist thoughts or rationales for why Muslims feel oppressed." And I think those ideas have to be challenged.

Let me make one last point about this. One of the places that you're seeing this debate play itself out is on the refugee issue both in Europe, and I gather it started popping up while I was back in the United States. The people who are fleeing Syria are the most harmed by terrorism, they are the most vulnerable as a consequence of civil war and strife. They are parents, they are children, they are orphans. And it is very important - and I was glad to see this was affirmed again and again by the G20 - that we do not close our hearts to these victims of such violence and somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.

In Europe, I think people like (German) Chancellor (Angela) Merkel have taken a very courageous stance by saying it is our moral obligation, as fellow human beings, to help people who are in such vulnerable situations. And I know that it is putting enormous strain on the resources of the people of Europe. Nobody has been carrying a bigger burden than the people here in Turkey, with 2.5 million refugees, and the people of Jordan and Lebanon, who are also admitting refugees. The fact that they've kept their borders open to these refugees is a signal of their belief in a common humanity.

And so we have to, each of us, do our part. And the United States has to step up and do its part. And when I hear folks say, "Well, maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims"; when I hear political leaders suggesting there would be a religious test for which a person who's fleeing a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefitted from protection when they were fleeing political persecution - that's shameful. That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

When Pope Francis came to visit the United States and gave a speech before Congress, he didn't just speak about Christians, who were being persecuted. He didn't call on Catholic parishes just to admit to those who were of the same religious faith. He said, protect people who are vulnerable.

And so I think it is very important for us right now - particularly those who are in leadership, particularly those who have a platform and can be heard - not to fall into that trap, not to feed that dark impulse inside of us.

I had a lot of disagreements with George W Bush on policy, but I was very proud after 9/11 when he was adamant and clear about the fact that this is not a war on Islam. And the notion that some of those who have taken on leadership in his party would ignore all of that, that's not who we are. On this, they should follow his example. It was the right one. It was the right impulse. It's our better impulse. And whether you are European or American, the values that we are defending - the values that we're fighting against ISIL for are precisely that we don't discriminate against people because of their faith. We don't kill people because they're different from us. That's what separates us from them. And we don't feed that kind of notion that somehow Christians and Muslims are at war.

And if we want to be successful at defeating ISIL, that's a good place to start - by not promoting that kind of ideology, that kind of attitude. In the same way that the Muslim community has an obligation not to in any way excuse anti-Western or anti-Christian sentiment, we have the same obligation as Christians. And we are - it is good to remember that the United States does not have a religious test, and we are a nation of many peoples of different faiths, which means that we show compassion to everybody. Those are the universal values we stand for. And that's what my administration intends to stand for.
Edited excerpt from US President Barack Obama's press conference at the G20 meeting in Antalya, Turkey, November 16, 2015

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First Published: Nov 21 2015 | 9:45 PM IST

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