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Q&A: Yogesh Lohiya, General Insurance Corporation

'There's a definite need for a catastrophe pool'

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Niladri Bhattacharya Mumbai

This year has already seen three major global catastrophes — in Australia, New Zealand and Japan. Yogesh Lohiya, chairman and managing director, General Insurance Corporation (GIC), the only domestic resinsurer in the country, in an interview with Niladri Bhattacharya, says both the government and the regulator must form a pool, since over 80 per cent of land in India is prone to catastrophes. Edited excerpts:

How would the recent catastrophes in Australia, New Zealand and Japan effect reinsurance pricing in the domestic market?
In India, pricing for catastrophe risks are low, since the country has been catastrophe-free in the last five years. However, there would be an impact in the prices due to recent catastrophes like the earthquake in New Zealand, the floods in Australia and the tsunami in Japan.

 

Domestic prices have risen 5-10 per cent during the renewals. Globally, renewals happen only in January. So, the impact of the recent events will be known only when these treaties are up renewal in January 2012.

What is the extent of the insured loss in the Japan crisis?
It is very difficult to access the extent of the damage. According to figures provided by the Japanese government, the total economic loss is estimated to be $409 billion. The extent of the insured loss would be known once the loss intimation starts to coming in. There is another aspect to it. In Japan, one has to assess the reasons for the damage, as there were three simultaneous events — the earthquake, the tsunami and fires. In the case of residential properties in Japan, 80 per cent of the damage is borne by the government and only 20 per cent by the insurers. However, for commercial properties, the whole loss is borne by insurance companies. So, there are a lot of technicalities involved while assessing the claim. But one thing is certain — the direct insurance companies (not reinsurers) are definitely affected.

As far as GIC is concerned, we have exposure across Japan. But the extent of the exposure in affected areas is still not clear. We haven't received any loss intimation till now.

Though we already have a terrorism pool in India, don’t you think a catastrophe pool is also required?
Looking back, one must say that creating the terror pool was an effective act by the regulator. Today, even after meeting the claims of the Mumbai terror attack, the size of the pool swelled to Rs 1,700 crore. So, it is good for the country to have such a pool. Currently, there aren't any suggestions for a catastrophe pool, though there is a definite need. The government and the regulator must consider this, as 80 per cent of land in India is prone to catastrophes.

What is the status of the nuclear pool?
We have domestic capacities which are worth roughly about Rs 400 crore. The liability per plant is estimated at Rs 1,500 crore. There are 26 such pools around the world and we would have to take support from those. The pool would cover only civil liabilities. We have worked out some modalities but the main issue is the inspection of power plants by foreign agencies. For the formation of any such pool, inspection is necessary. It happens in every country — from Japan to China. The people who would inspect the power plants are experts in nuclear insurance. They would seek data on different parameters like safety, security and other risks. We are in constant talks with the government and the Nuclear Power Corporation and hope to get a breakthrough soon.

How did your business fare in 2010-11? What was the share of overseas business during the period?
In 2009-10, our total premium income stood at around Rs 9,000 crore and we expect a 20 per cent growth in 2010-11. So, the total premium income should cross Rs 11,000 crore.

The share of overseas business should be in the region of 48 per cent. By March 2012, overseas business would contribute 50 per cent to our total business. We have recently opened an office at Kuala Lumpur and are planning to open an office in Brazil and another in Africa — most probably in South Africa.

Despite a decent growth in premiums, the domestic general insurance industry is incurring huge underwriting losses.
The major concern for the domestic general insurance industry is the rise in underwriting losses. Motor and health constitute 64 per cent of the total business and both recording losses. This is not the result of de-tariffing only. I think the industry is not pricing the risks adequately. Hence, loss ratios are climbing every year. The industry must strive to improve underwriting practices.

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First Published: Apr 14 2011 | 12:04 AM IST

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